Is Red Kelly one of the Greatest NHL Players of All Time?

Red Kelly was one of the best D of the 1950s and possibly the greatest offensive D to yet play in the NHL. And then he was traded to the Leafs and famously switched to centre. Throughout his career he won more Stanley Cups than any other non-Canadien player. He is one of only 10 players to ever have the three-year Hall of Fame waiting requirement waived.

So where does Red Kelly rank all time?

Listen to us talk about Red Kelly’s Hall of Fame and GOAT case here:

Hockey Hall of Fame Class of 1969: Red Kelly, Sid Abel, Bryan Hextall, Roy Worters

Red Kelly’s Career:

  • NHL: 1947-67; 20 seasons, all quality
  • Totals:
    • 281G (11th All Time at his retirement) ,
    • 542A (4th All Time at his retirement – Howe, Bathgate, Beliveau) for
    • 823P (7th All Time at his retirement),
    • +50* in
    • 1316 Games (2nd All Time at his retirement – Howe);
    • 146.3 Point Shares (2nd All Time at his retirement – Howe);
    • At his retirement, Kelly was
      • 8th All time in Offensive Point Shares
      • 3rd All Time in Defensive Point Shares (Harvey, Pronovost);
    • At his trade from Detroit to Toronto, when he switched to centre, among D, Kelly was approximately:
      • 3rd/1st All Time in Goals (Clapper, Schmidt)
      • 4th/3rd All Time in Assists (Schmidt, Harvey, Gadsby)
      • 2nd/1st All Time in Points (Schmidt)
      • 2nd/1st All Time in Offensive Point Shares (Clapper)
      • 3rd All Time in Defensive Point Shares (Harvey, Bouchard)
      • 1st All Time in Point Shares (by over 12 PS)
      • 1st All Time in Games
  • Per Game: At his retirement, Kelly was
    • T-22nd All Time in APG
    • At his trade from Detroit to Toronto, when he switched to centre, among D, Kelly was approximately:
      • 4th/3rd in APG (Schmidt, Harvey, Gadsby);
      • Kelly didn’t yet qualify for Goals and Points but if we lower the qualifiers (to 150G, 450A) so he does, Kelly was
        • 4th/1st All Time in GPG (Noble, Schmidt, Clapper)
        • 3rd/1st All Time in PPG (Schmidt, Clapper)
  • Era:
    • Of the 14 D to play in at least 574 games (7 modern seasons) between 1947 and 1960, Kelly is
      • 1st in Goals (by 73)
      • 1st in GPG
      • 2nd in Assists
      • 3rd in APG
      • 1st in Points (by 75)
      • 1st in PPG
      • 1st in Offensive Point Shares (by over 17)
      • 2nd in Defensive Point Shares
      • 1st in Point Shares (by nearly 19)
      • 1st in Games
    • Of the 49 skaters to play at least 410 games (5 modern seasons) between 1959 and 1967, Kelly is
      • T-21st in Goals
      • T-26th in GPG
      • 13th in Assists
      • 13th in APG
      • 15th in Points
      • T-16th in PPG
      • 23rd in Plus/Minus
      • 17th in Offensive Point Shares
      • 14th (1st or 2nd Forward) in Defensive Point Shares
      • 24th in Point Shares
  • 82-game average: 17G, 34A for 52P, +3*; 9.1 PS
  • 3-year peak:
    • As D (1950-53): 70-game average of 18G, 32A for 50P; 12.2 PS
    • As C (1960-63): 70-game average of 23G, 43A for 63P; +24
  • Playoffs:
    • 33G (9th All Time at his retirement)
    • 59A (t-5th All Time at his retirement – Howe, Beliveau, Delvecchio, Harvey) for
    • 92P (8th All Time at his retirement),
    • -6* in
    • 164 playoff Games (1st All Time at his retirement, held record until 1973);
    • At his trade from Detroit to Toronto, when he switched to centre, among D, Kelly was approximately:
      • 2nd/1st in playoff Goals (Schmidt)
      • 2nd in playoff Assists (Harvey)
      • 3rd/2nd in playoff Points (Harvey, Schmidt)
    • Per Game: At his retirement, Kelly was
      • 21st All Time in playoff APG
      • 23rd All Time in playoff PPG
      • Before he became a centre, Kelly didn’t qualify for the playoff PG leaderboards. However, if we lower the qualifiers (to 15G, 20A, 35P), at his trade from Detroit to Toronto, among D, Kelly was approximately:
        • 2nd/1st All Time in playoff GPG (Schmidt)
        • 6th/3rd All Time in playoff AGP (Harvey, Mohns, Colville, Hollett, Schmidt)
        • 3rd/2nd All Time in playoff PPG (Schmidt, Harvey)
    • Era:
      • Of the 17 D to play in at least 41 playoff games between 1947 and 1959, Kelly is
        • 1st in playoff Goals (by 8)
        • T-1st in playoff GPG
        • 2nd in playoff Assists
        • 6th in playoff APG
        • 2nd in playoff Points
        • 2nd in playoff PPG
        • 2nd in playoff Games
      • Of the 40 skaters to play in at least 41 playoff games between 1960 and 1967, Kelly is
        • 11th in playoff Goals
        • 13th in playoff GPG
        • 6th in playoff Assists
        • 6th in playoff APG
        • 6th in playoff Points
        • 9th in playoff PPG
        • 35th in playoff Plus/Minus
        • T-4th in playoff Games
  • Adjustment for Era:
    • Hockey-Reference:
      • 327G
      • 676A for
      • 1003P
      • Adjusted 82-game average: 20G, 42A for 62P (+10P per 82 games)
      • Per Game: Kelly is not in the Top 25 on any adjusted PG leaderboards unless we cheat and count his games at Forward towards his totals at D
    • VsX:
      • 436G
      • 916A
      • 1127P
      • Per Game: Kelly isn’t in the Top 25 for any VsX PG leaderboard; however, if the qualifier is set to 1230 games (15 modern seasons), Kelly is
        • 20th All Time in VsX APG
  • Trades:
    • Traded at 32 to Toronto for Marc Reaume (26)
    • Traded at nearly 39 to LA for Ken Block (23)

Red Kelly’s Accomplishments:

  • Top 5 in Hart voting three times
  • Norris (‘54)
  • Top 5 in Norris voting a further three times
  • Lady Byng (‘51, ‘53, ‘54, ‘61)
  • All Star:
    • 1st Team All Star six times (5th most by a D ever – Bourque, Lidstrom, Harvey, Orr)
    • 2nd Team All Star twice
    • 12 All Star Game appearances
  • Top Player:
    • Top 5 Player (by PS) six times (‘50, ‘51, ‘53, ‘54, ‘55, ‘56)
    • Top 10 eight times (‘52, ‘57)
    • Best Defensive Player (by DPS) once (‘53)
    • Top 5 Defensive Player eight times (‘48, ‘50, ‘51, ‘52, ‘55, ‘56, ‘57) – t-4th most ever (Bourque, Robinson, Georges Boucher)
    • Top 10 ten times (‘49, ‘54) – t-10th most ever
  • Goals:
    • 20 goals three times
    • 15 goals (as a D) seven times (t-14th D All Time, only D ever at his switch to C)
  • Assists:
    • Leaderboards:
      • Top 5 in Assists twice
      • Top 10 seven times
    • APG leaderboards:
      • Top 5 in APG twice
      • Top 10 seven times
    • Single-season totals:
      • 50 assists once
      • 40 assists twice
  • Points:
    • Leaderboards:
      • Top 10 four times
    • PPG leaderboards:
      • Top 5 in PPG once
      • Top 10 four times
    • Single-season leaderboards:
      • 70 points once
      • 60 points twice
      • 50 points four times (at his switch to C in 1960, he was of only 2 D ever to have 50 points twice – Gadsby)
  • VsX:
    • Best 7 Seasons:
      • Goals: doesn’t qualify
      • 63rd All Time in Assists
      • 137th All Time in Points
    • Best 10 Seasons:
      • Goals: 225th All Time in Goals
      • Assists: 54th All Time in Assists
      • Points: 123rd All Time in Points

Red Kelly’s Great Teams:

  • NHL:
    • Best Player? (by points) on one Runner Up (‘60 Maple Leafs) and one Final Four (‘65 Maple Leafs)
    • Best D (by points) on two Champions (‘54, ‘55 Red Wings), three Runners Up (‘48, ‘49, ‘56 Red Wings) and one Final Four (‘57 Red Wings)
    • Top 2 D (by points) on one Champion (‘50 Red Wings) and two Final Fours (‘53, ‘58 Red Wings)
    • Top 4 D (by points) on one Final Four (‘51 Red Wings)
    • Top 3 Forward (by points) on two Champions (‘63, ‘64 Maple Leafs) and one Final Four (‘66 Maple Leafs)
    • Top 6 Forward on one Champion (‘62 Maple Leafs)
    • Top 9 Forward (by points) on one Champion (‘67 Maple Leafs)
    • Injured (missed 38% of the games) on one Champion (‘52 Red Wings)
    • Injured (missed 40% of the games) on one Final Four (‘61 Red Wings)

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