Tim Horton is now famous for Tim Horton’s than he is for hockey. But, while he was alive, he was reputed to be the strongest player in the league. He won four Stanley Cups (leading the Leafs in points one layoff) and is one of the greatest D in Leafs history.
But is also a bit of a proto Brad Park: he was a runner up in Norris trophy voting twice, with four other Top 4 finishes, but never won the award. He was also a minus on a couple of the Cup winning teams he played for.
So, does Tim Horton belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?
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Marcel Pronovost played a long time, had some Norris nominations and won multiple Stanley Cups.
But was he ever the #1 D on his team? We don’t have ice time so we don’t know. On some of the Cup winners he was on, there are 8 Hall of Famers. Should we be inducting middle 6 and 2nd pair players of Cup winners?
In this episode, we discuss Marcel Provnost’s complicated case for the Hall of Fame:
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Jacques Plante is one of the best regular season goalies in NHL history. However, unlike someone like Tony Esposito, he is also one of the greatest playoff goalies in NHL history.
This is a far rarer combination than we might think.
So, we ask, is Jacques Plante one of the greatest goalies of all time? Is he, perhaps, the GOAT?
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Andy Bathgate won the Hart (though we don’t agree) and he was arguably the 2nd best regular season RW of his era (if you don’t count the years he overlapped with Richard).
But his playoff numbers are not great and the only Cup he won he had quite a diminished role.
So, does Andy Bathgate belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?
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There is a never-ending debate among hockey fans as to which player of Gretzky, Lemieux and Orr was the greatest. There are certain areas where each stands supreme.
Our vote is for Orr because we think he played the more difficult and more important position and because he revolutionized the position as well. (Also, the skating.) But at least one of us thinks there’s room for debate.
Listen to us talk about Bobby Orr:
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Gump Worsley spent half his career playing for bad teams.
But then he got traded to the Habs, won some Vezinas, and could have won at least one Conn Smythe if the votes had gone differently.
The big question about Worsley is which part of his career should we take seriously: the regular season goalie without a winning record or the goalie who was among the best in the world for a time?
Listen to us talk about Gump Worsley’s Hall of Fame case here:
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Harry Lumley belongs in the Hockey Hall of Fame because he was the All Time Wins Leader at his retirement. But, was he really that good?
Most of his career, the league didn’t track shots. Once, they did, Lumley’s numbers started not looking so good (though he was getting old).
We discuss his career here:
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Bucyk retired as one of the Top 5 scorers in NHL history. And he set the single season record for a Left Winger.
But does his career look as good as it does because of his incredible longevity? Because he was never the best player on the Bruins when they were good.
Listen to us discuss John Bucyk’s Hockey Hall of Fame case here:
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Allan Stanley played a really long time, won a bunch of Stanley Cups and was briefly considered one of the best D in the NHL.
But his name doesn’t come up very often in discussions of great D of the past.
So, does Allan Stanley belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame? Has he been unjustly forgotten?
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JC Tremblay won 5 Stanley Cups and an Avco. His Norris Trophy finishes are 2,3, 4,5,5. He won the Murphy (the WHA equivalent of the Norris) twice.
But he is not in the Hockey Hall of Fame.
In this episode, we wonder why. Listen here:
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