Does Pierre Turgeon Belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

Pierre Turgeon is our first truly eligible player that we’re considering. And he’s a bit of a litmus test, as he has the most points of any eligible (inactive for 3 years) player not in the Hall of Fame (as well as the most assists). If he belongs, others do to.

But if he doesn’t, maybe he’s a good cut-off point for counting stats.

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Pierre Turgeon’s Career

• NHL: 1987-2007; 19 seasons, 18 quality
• Totals:
  • 515G,
  • 812A for
  • 1327P,
  • +139 in
  • 1294 games;
  • 134.3 Point Shares;
• Per Game:
  • 16:04 ATOI (since 1998-99)
• Draft: In his draft year (1987), Turgeon, drafted 1st overall is
  • 3rd in Goals and Points,
  • 2nd in Assists and
  • 5th in Plus/Minus despite being
  • 5th in Games Played
• Era: Of the 18 players to play in at least 1250 games between 1987 and 2007, Turgeon is
  • 5th in Goals, Plus/Minus, Offensive Point Shares and Point Shares
  • 6th in GPG
  • 4th in Assists and Points
  • 3rd in APG and PPG
• 82-game average: 33G, 52A for 84P, +9
• 3-year peak (1991-94): 82-game average of 48G, 66A for 114P, +7
• Possession numbers were not tracked until the season after Turgeon retired
• Playoffs:
  • 35G,
  • 62A for
  • 97P,
  • -6 in
  • 109 Games
  • Era: Of the hundreds of skaters to play in 82 playoff games between 1987 and 2007, Turgeon is
    • 48th in Goals
    • 37th in GPG
    • 38th in Assists
    • 20th in APG
    • 36th in Points
    • 21st in PPG
    • 162nd in Plus/Minus
    • 92nd in Games Played
• Adjusted:
  • Hockey-Reference:
    • 517G,
    • 798A for
    • 1315P
  • Adjusted 82-game average: 33G, 51A for 83P (-1P per 82 games)
  • Adjusted PPG:
    • Not in the Top 25; However, if the qualifier is set to 1,230 games (15 seasons) Turgeon is
      • 20th All Time in Adjusted GPG
      • 19th All Time in Adjusted APG
      • 13th All Time in Adjusted PPG
  • VsX:
    • 506G
    • 837A
    • 1,200P
    • Per Game: Not in the Top 25; However, if the qualifier is set to 1,230 Games, Turgeon is
      • 20th All Time in VsX Adjusted PPG
• Trades:
  • Traded at 22 with Uwe Krupp (26), Benoit Hogue (25) and Dave McLlwain (24) to the Islanders for Pat LaFontaine (26) with Randy Hiller (31), Randy Wood (28) a 1992 4th Rounder (Dean Melanson)
  • Traded at 25 and Vladimir Malakhov to the Canadiens for Mathieu Schneider (26) 25 with Kirk Muller (29) and Craig Darby (22) – our 15th Greatest Habs Trade of All Time
  • Traded at 27 with Rory Fitzpatrick (21) and Craig Conroy (25) to St. Louis for Murray Baron (29), Shayne Corson (30) and a 1997 5th Rounder (nobody) – Our 11th Worst Canadiens Trade of All Time.

Pierre Turgeon’s Accomplishments:

• Top 5 in Hart Voting once
• Byng (‘93)
• Top Player:
  • Top 10 Offensive Player (by OPS) once (‘93)
• Goals:
  • Leader-boards:
    • Top 10 in Goals once
  • GPG leader-boards:
    • Top 10 in GPG twice
  • Single-season totals:
    • 55 goals once,
    • 40 goals three times,
    • 35 goals five times,
    • 30 goals nine times,
    • 25 goals eleven times,
    • 20 goals thirteen times
• Assists:
  • Leader-boards:
    • Top 10 in Assists three times
  • APG leader-boards:
    • Top 5 in APG twice
  • Single-season totals:
    • 70 assists once,
    • 60 assists twice,
    • 50 assists eight times,
    • 40 assists eleven times
• Points:
  • Leader-boards:
    • Top 5 in Points once,
    • Top 10 twice
  • PPG leader-boards:
    • Top 5 in PPG twice,
    • Top 10 five times
  • Single-season totals:
    • 130 points once (1 of only 23 players),
    • 100 points twice,
    • 90 points five times,
    • 80 points eight times,
    • 70 points nine times,
    • 60 points twelve times
• All Star:
  • 5 All Star Game appearances
• VsX Peak:
  • Best 7 Seasons:
    • Goals: 122nd All Time
    • Assists: 101st All Time
    • Points: 88th All Time
  • Best 10 Seasons:
    • Goals: 95th All Time
    • Assists: 80th Al Time
    • Points: 66th All Time

Great Teams

• NHL:
  • Top 3 Forward (by points) on two Final fours (‘93 Islanders, ‘01 Blues)