Does Butch Goring Belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

Butch Goring won four Stanley Cups and a Conn Smythe trophy. And he’s got more awards than Clark Gillies. But he’s not in the Hall of Fame.

That could be because he probably didn’t deserve that Conn Smythe. And his regular season and playoff numbers are hardly elite.

Listen to us discuss Goring’s case here:

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Does Clark Gillies Belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

Clark Gillies has four Stanley Cups and two 1st All Star Team selections.

But he has a career PPG of .73 despite playing in the ’80s and his best offensive season was exceeded by that of 3 teammates. He only led the Islanders in playoff scoring once.

Does he really have enough of a resume to be in the Hall of Fame?

Listen to us discuss his case here:

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Is Pat LaFontaine the Greatest American Hockey Player of All Time?

Some people believe Pat LaFontaine is the Greatest American Hockey Player of All Time. (The A-GOAT? The GAOAT?) This is despite an injury-shortened career and no Stanley Cups.

Does this claim hold up to scrutiny?

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Does Mathieu Schneider Belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

In journeyman career that saw him play for way too many teams, Mathieu Schneider amassed enough points to make him one of the top 25 offensive defensmen in NHL history (if you go by totals, not per game). That surprised us.

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But Schneider has few individual accolades and not a lot of team success.

So does he belong in the Hall of Fame?

We discuss it on our latest episode. Listen here:

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Does Doug Weight Belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

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Until very recently, Doug Weight was one of the Top 5 American passers in the history of the NHL, and he did so while playing his prime in the Dead Puck (Clutch and Grab) era, at one point scoring over 100 points in a season.

We both fondly remember Weight from those classic Oilers-Stars series of the late ’90s and early ’00s. But does he really deserve a spot in the Hall of Fame?

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Weight’s stats:

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Does Craig Janney Belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

Craig Janney is 14th All Time in Assists Per Game, one of only two players in the Top 15 who are not in the Hall of Fame or still active.

The big knocks against Janney are his minus, the length of his career and his lack of a truly dominant season.

We talk about Janney’s Hockey Hall of Fame case here:

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Zigmund Palffy

A lot of people probably think Ziggy Palffy doesn’t have a case in hell for Hall of Fame. Well, we beg top differ.

In our latest episode, hear us make a case for Palffy’s induction, based upon the standards set by previous inductees. Listen here:

Palffy’s stats:

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Does Pierre Turgeon Belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

Pierre Turgeon is our first truly eligible player that we’re considering. And he’s a bit of a litmus test, as he has the most points of any eligible (inactive for 3 years) player not in the Hall of Fame (as well as the most assists). If he belongs, others do to.

But if he doesn’t, maybe he’s a good cut-off point for counting stats.

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Mike Bossy

Career

  • NHL: 1977-87; 10 seasons, all quality
  • 573G (5th All Time at his retirement[1. Bossy is now 21st All Time in Goals]), 553A for 1126P (16th at his retirement), +381 (10th[2. Bossy is now 15th All Time in Points]) in 752 games; 110.9 PS (23rd)
  • Bossy is 1st All Time in GPG and 3rd in PPG[3. Among qualifying players]
  • At his retirement, Bossy was 16th All Time in Offensive Point Shares
  • Era: Bossy is 1st in Goals,[4. Bossy is ahead by 112 Goals] GPG,[5. Bossy is ahead by .17 GPG] Points, PPG, OPS[6. Bossy is ahead by over 10 OPS] and PS[7. Bossy is ahead by over 15 PS] 4th in Assists and APG, 6th in Games [8. Of the 8 players to play in at least 750 games between 1977 and 1987]
  • 82-game average: 62G, 61A for 123P, +28
  • 3-year peak (1981-84): 80-game average of 62G, 74A for 136P, +57
  • Playoffs: 85G (6th[9. Bossy was the career leader in playoff goals from 1985 until 1989]), 75A for 160P (20th), +3[10. From 1983-84] in 129 games
  • Bossy is 2nd All Time in playoff GPG[11. Bossy was the career leader in playoff GPG in 1982] and 6th in PPG[12. Bossy was the career leader in playoff PPG from 1981 until 1983]
  • Adjusted: 461G, 445A for 906P
  • Adjusted 82-game average: 50G, 49A for 99P[13. Just about no player is affected more negatively by Hockey Reference’s adjustment for era than Mike Bossy]
  • Never traded.

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