Is Marcel Dionne one of Greatest Centres of All Time?

Marcel Dionne’s regular season numbers are absolutely incredible, yet he’s rarely talked about as among the greatest forwards or even centres of all time.

Why is that?

Well, a lot has to do with his playoff numbers, which are, um, awful.

Listen to us talk about Marcel Dionne’s Hall of Fame career and where he ranks All Time:

Hall of Fame Class of 1992: Marcel Dionne, Woody Dumar, Bob Gainey, Lanny McDonald

Marcel Dionne’s career:

  • 1971-1989; 18 years, 17 quality
  • Totals:
    • 731G (5th All Time, 2nd at his retirement – Howe)
    • 1040 Assists (11th All Time, 3rd at his retirement – Gretzky, Howe)
    • 1771 Points (6th All Time, 3rd at his retirement, Gretzky, Howe)
    • +27 in
    • 1348 Games (11th All Time at his retirement)
    • 155.5 PS (6th All Time at his retirement);
    • Dionne is 10th All Time in Offensive Point Shares (4th at his retirement – Howe, Gretzky, Esposito)
  • Per Game:
    • 15th All Time in GPG
    • 10th All Time in APG
    • 6th All Time in PPG
  • Draft: Dionne, drafted 2nd overall in 1971, Dionne is
    • 1st in Goals (by over 150)
    • 1st in Assists (by over 250)
    • 1st in Points (by over 200)
    • 9th in Plus/Minus
    • 2nd in Point Shares
    • 2nd in Games
  • Era: Of the 18 skaters to play in at least 984 games (12 modern seasons), Dionne is
    • 1st in Goals (by nearly 200)
    • 1st in GPG
    • 1st in Assists (by nearly 200)
    • 2nd in APG
    • 1st in Points (by nearly 450)
    • 1st in PPG
    • 15th in Plus/Minus
    • 1st in Offensive Point Shares (by over 30)
    • 10th in Defensive Point Shares (5th Forward)
    • 3rd in Point Shares (1st Forward)
    • 1st in Games (by nearly 150)
  • 82-game average: 44G, 63A for 107P, +2
  • 3-year peak (1978-81): 80-game average of 57G, 77A for 134P, +37
  • No possession stats
  • Playoffs:
    • 21G,
    • 24A for
    • 45P,
    • -23 in
    • 49 Games
    • Era: Of the hundreds of skaters to play in at least 41 playoff games between 1971 and 1982, Dionne is
      • 77th in playoff Goals
      • 23rd in playoff GPG
      • 123rd in playoff Assists
      • 50th in playoff APG (not actually on leader-board)
      • 105th in playoff Points
      • 33rd in playoff in PPG (missed leader-board by 1P)
      • Not in the Top 200 in playoff Plus/Minus or playoff Games Played
  • Adjusted:
    • Hockey-Reference:
      • 610G (18th All Time)
      • 883A (20th All Time)
      • 1493P (14th All Time
      • 82-game average: 37G, 52A for 91P (-16P per 82 games)
      • Per Game: Not in the Top 25; however, if the qualifier is set to 820 games, Dionne is
        • 24th All Time in Adjusted APG
        • 15th All time in Adjusted PPG;
        • And if the qualifier is set to 1230 games, Dionne is
          • 11th All Time in Adjusted GPG
          • 13th All Time in Adjusted APG
          • 6th all Time in Adjusted PPG
    • VsX:
      • 651G (18th All Time)
      • 1,048A (17th All Time)
      • 1,484P (14th All Time)
      • Per Game: Not in the Top 25; however, if the qualifier is set to 820 games, Dionne is
        • 21st All Time in VsX Adjusted GPG
        • 20th All Time in VsX Adjusted APG
        • 17th All Time in VsX Adjusted PPG;
        • And if the qualifier is set to 1230 Games, Dionne is
          • 6th All Time in VsX Adjusted GPG
          • 9th All Time in VsX Adjusted APG
          • 7th All Time in VsX Adjusted PPG
  • Trades:
    • Traded at 24 with Bart Crashley (29) to Los Angeles for Dan Maloney (24), Terry Harper (35) and a 1976 2nd Rounder (Jimmy Roberts)
    • Traded at 35 with Jeff Crossman and a 1989 3rd Rounder (Murray Garbutt) to the Rangers for Bob Carpenter (23) and Tom Laidlaw (30)
  • Junior:
    • Eddie Powers (‘70, ‘71)

Marcel Dionne’s Accomplishments:

  • Top 5 in Hart voting four times
  • Ted Lindsay (‘79, ‘80)
  • Art Ross (‘80)
  • Top 5 in Calder voting
  • Byng (‘75, ‘77)
  • Back Check MVP (‘80)
  • Top Player:
    • Top 5 Player (by PS) three times (‘79, ‘80, ‘81)
    • Top 10 Player five times (‘77, ‘85)
    • Best Offensive Player (by OPS) once (‘80)
    • Top 5 six times (‘75, ‘77, ‘79, ‘81, ‘83)
    • Top 10 nine times (‘73, ‘82, ‘85) – tied 10th most ever
  • Goals:
    • Leader-boards:
      • Top 5 in Goals six times
      • Top 10 nine times – tied 8th most ever
    • GPG leader-boards:
      • Top 5 in GPG five times
      • Top 10 seven times
    • Single-season totals:
      • 55 goals three times (1 of only 10 players ever, 6 at his retirement)
      • 50 goals six times (1 of only 6 players ever, 4 at his retirement)
      • 45 goals eight times (1 of only 5 players ever – Ovechkin, Bossy, Gretzky, Lemieux – 3 at his retirement)
      • 40 goals ten times (1 of only 4 players ever – Gretzky, Ovechkin, Lemieux – 2 at his retirement)
      • 35 goals thirteen times (1 of only 3 players ever – Gretzky, Gartner – only player at his retirement)
      • 30 goals fourteen times (1 of only 6 players ever, 2 at his retirement)
      • 25 goals sixteen times (1 of only 7 players ever, 2 at his retirement)
      • 20 goals seventeen times (1 of only 14 players ever, 2 at his retirement)
  • Assists:
    • Leader-boards:
      • Top 5 in Assists 6 times
      • Top 10 nine times
    • APG leader-boards:
      • Top 5 in APG seven times
      • Top 10 8 times
    • Single-season totals:
      • 80 assists twice (1 of only 12 players ever, 8 at his retirement)
      • 70 assists five times (1 of only 8 players ever, 5 at his retirement
      • 60 assists seven times (1 of only 15 players ever, 5 at his retirement)
      • 50 assists fourteen times (1 of only 5 players ever – Gretzky, Francis, Coffey, Sakic –  only player at his retirement)
      • 40 assists sixteen times (1 of only 6 players ever,  only player at his retirement)
  • Points:
    • Leader-boards:
      • Led the league in Points once
      • Top 5 seven times
      • Top 10 eigh times
    • PPG leader-boards:
      • Top 5 in PPG six times
      • Top 10 nine times
    • Single-season totals:
      • 130 points three times (1 of only 4 players ever – Gretzky, Lemieux, Esposito)
      • 120 points six times (1 of only 4 players ever – Gretzky, Lemieux, Esposito – 3 at his retirement)
      • 110 points seven times (1 of only 4 players ever – Gretzky, Lemieux, Bossy – 3 at his retirement)
      • 100 points eight times (1 of only 3 players ever – Gretzky, Lemieux – 2 at his retirement)
      • 90 points twelve times (1 of only 2 players ever – Gretzky – only player at his retirement)
      • 80 points thirteen times (1 of only 4 players ever – Gretzky, Hawerchuk, Messier – only player at his retirement)
      • 70 points sixteen times (1 of only 4 players ever – Howe, Gretzky, Francis – 2 at his retirement)
      • 60 points seventeen times (1 of only 7 players ever, 2 at his retirement)
    • Plus Minus:
      • Top 5 in Plus/Minus once
    • All Star:
      • 1st Team All Star twice
      • 2nd Team All Star twice
      • 8 All Star Game appearances
    • VsX Peak:
      • Best 7 Seasons:
        • Goals: 26th All Time
        • Assists: 17th All Time
        • Points: 12th All Time
      • Best 10 Seasons:
        • Goals: 19th All Time
        • Assists: 17th All Time
        • Points: 11th All Time

Marcel Dionne’s Great Teams:

  • Canada/World Cup:
    • Top 6 Forward (by points) on one Champion (‘76 Canada)
    • Top 9? Forward (by points) on one Runner Up (‘81 Canada)
  • World Championships:
    • “Best Forward” tournament award on one World Championship Bronze (‘78 Canada)
    • Best Forward (by points) on one World Championship Bronze (‘83 Canada)
    • Top 3 Forward (by points) on one World Championship Bronze (‘86 Canada)
  • Summit Series:
    • Taxi squad for one Champion (‘72 Canada)

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