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How Do We Determine Greatness?
How Do We Determinate Greatness in Hockey?
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We think about this as three general sets of criteria each with their own set of problems:
Lorne Carr
Career
- NHL: 1933-46; 13 seasons, 9 quality[1. By Modern standards of PPG]
- 204G (12th All Time at his retirement), 222A (10th) for 426P (9th) in 580 games (16th); 39.2 PS
- Era: Carr is 3rd in Goals, GPG, OPS and Games, 2nd in Assists, APG, Points and PPG, and 7th in PS[2. Of the 7 players to play in at least 550 games between 1933 and 1946]
- 82-game average: 29G, 31A for 60P
- 3-year peak:[3. 1942-45] 48-game average of 27G, 31A for 59P
- Playoffs: 10G, 9A for 19P in 53 games
- Adjusted: 273G, 345A for 618P
- Adjusted 82-game average: 39G, 49A for 87P
- Traded twice in his prime, and twice at the beginning of his career.[4. Basically he was waived and called back up.]
Aubrey Dit Clapper
Dit Clapper’s Career
- NHL: 1927-47; 20 seasons, 8 out of 10 quality as a forward (by modern standards of PPG) and at least 8 out of 10 quality as a D (by Defensive Point Shares)
- Totals:
- 228G (8th All Time at his retirement),
- 246A (6th) for
- 474P (6th) in
- 833 games (1st) – Clapper held the record for games played until the 1956-57 season
- 94.3 PS (5th)
- At his retirement, Clapper was 18th All Time in GPG and PPG, and 20th in APG (minimum 500 games, since Clapper doesn’t meet the qualifiers for APG or PPG)
- At his retirement, Clapper was 6th All Time in Offensive Point Shares and 11th All time in Defensive Point Shares
- Era: Of the 7 players to play in at least 600 games between 1927 and 1947, Clapper is
- 3rd in Goals, GPG, Points and DPS,
- 2nd in Assists,
- 4th in APG and PPG,
- 1st in OPS, PS and Games
- 82-game average: 22G, 25A for 47P; 9.2 PS
- 3-year peak (1929-32): 44-game average of 26G, 16A for 43P (as a forward)
- Playoffs: 13G, 17A for 30 points in 82 games
- Adjusted: 382G, 508A for 890P
- Adjusted 82-game average: 38G, 50A for 88P
- Never Traded.