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Why is Bobby Bauer in the Hall of Fame?

Bobby Bauer was part of the famous Kraut Line. And he won two Stanley Cups, one Memorial Cup and one Allan Cup. (He might be the last hockey player to win all three.)

But he was never even the best player on his own team, let alone in the league. And he underperformed in the NHL playoffs.

Not only is it kind of strange that he’s in the Hall of Fame, but it’s extra strange he was inducted 40+ years after he retired and over 30 years after he died.

So why is Bobby Bauer in the Hall of Fame?

Listen as we try to find out:

Does Cam Neely Belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

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Cam Neely is one of only 8 players to unofficially score “50 Goals in 50 Games”. (He did it in the Bruins’ 66th game of the season, so it doesn’t count in the NHL’s eyes.) And, when healthy, he was one of the most dominant goal-scorers of his era. On the Bruins…

But his career numbers are not as good as you think they are and, beyond some 2nd All Star Teams, he didn’t really get much acknowledgement as an elite player during his career.

So, does Cam Neely belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame? Listen to us discuss his case here:

Does Al Macinnis Belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

Al Macinnis’ spot in the Hall is not in dispute. What’s at issue is where MacInnis belongs among the greatest D of All Time.

Listen to us talk about Al MacInnis here:

Does Shane Doan even have a case for the Hall of Fame?

The idea of Shane Doan being in the Hockey Hall of Fame may strike you as absurd. It strikes one of us that way. The other of us tries to persuade us all that there is actually a case for Shane Doan to be in the Hall of Fame.

So the first part of this episode is about whether or not Shane Doan even has a case to be in the Hall of Fame. We hope you enjoy it. You can listen here:

Does Marian Hossa Belong the Hockey Hall of Fame?

Marian Hossa combined long-term offensive productivity with defensive dominance on the wing, does he belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

He has the career numbers given when he played but he never dominated offensively and he was never awarded the Selke.

Listen to us discuss Hossa’s case here:

Does Jarome Iginla Belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

Though he’s technically still active, we decided there was no way he was going to improve his case if he ever did manage to make an NHL comeback, so we decided to talk about Jarome Iginla’s Hall of Fame case.

You can listen to the episode here:

Billy Burch

Career

NHL: 1922-33; 11 seasons, 5 quality[1. By modern PPG standards]
137G (101th All Time at his retirement), 61A (25th) for 1988P (14th) in 390 Games (7th); 40.2 PS (18th)
If the qualifier is set to 300 games, at his retirement Burch was 10th in GPG and 17th in PPG
At his retirement, Burch was 12th All Time in Offensive Point Shares
82-game average: 29G, 13A for 42P
3-year peak (1922-25): 24-game average of 18G, 6A for 23P
Playoffs: 0P in 2 games
Adjusted: 257G, 292A for 549P
Adjusted 82-game average: 54G, 61A for 115P
If the qualifier is set to 300 games, Burch is 24th All Time in Adjusted PPG
Traded twice after his prime, purchased once.

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Ralph Cooney Weiland

Career

NHL: 1928-39; 11 seasons, 7 quality[1. By modern stands of PPG]
Total:
- 173G (12th All Time at his retirement), 1
- 60A (13th) for
- 333P (11th) in
- 509 games (20th);
- 54.6 PS (16th)
Per Game:
- At his retirement, Weiland was 15th All Time in GPG, 20th in APG and 13th in PPG, minimum of 300 games[2. If the qualifier is raised to 500 games]
- Weiland was 5th in GPG and PPG and 6th in APG at his retirement]
At his retirement, Weiland was 14th All Time in Offensive Point Shares
Era: Weiland is 4th in Goals, GPG, Assists, APG, Points, PPG, OPS and PS, and 9th in Games[3. Of the 10 players to play in at least 500 games between 1928 and 1939]
82-game average: 28G, 25A for 53P
3-year peak (1929-32): 44 game average of 27G, 18A for 45P
Playoffs: 12G, 10A for 22P in 45 games
Adjusted:
- Hockey Reference:
  - 309G, 440A for 749P
  - Adjusted 82-game average: 50G, 71A for 121P
  - Per Game: If the qualifier is set to 300 games, Weiland is 21st All Time in Adjusted PPG[4. If the qualifier is raised to 500 games, Weiland is 11th All Time]
- VsX:
Traded thrice in his prime.

Charlie Conacher

Career

NHL: 1929-1941; 12 seasons, 10 quality
Totals:
- 225G (6th All Time at his retirement),
- 173A (15th) for
- 398P (6th) in
- 459 games;
- 66.6 PS (10th)
At his retirement, Conacher was 3rd in GPG, 7th in APG and 2nd in PPG[1. Minimum 300 games]
At his retirement, Conacher was 5th All Time in Offensive Point Shares
Era: Conacher is 1st in Goals, GPG, Points, PPG and OPS, 6th in Assists, 3rd in APG and PS, and 16th in Games[2. Of the 37 players to play in 400 games between 1929 and 1941]
82-game average: 40G, 31A for 71P
3-year peak (1933-36): 48-game average of 33G, 20A for 53P
Playoffs: 17G, 18A for 35P in 49 games
Conacher briefly shared the record for career playoff goals at the end of the 1939-40 season
Conacher held the record for career playoff APG from 1939 until the 1944 playoffs
Adjusted: 393G, 399A for 792P
Adjusted 82-game average: 70G, 71A for 141P
If the qualifier is set at 300 games, Conacher is 10th All Time in Adjusted PPG
Traded twice at the end of his career.