Does Pierre Turgeon Belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

Pierre Turgeon is our first truly eligible player that we’re considering. And he’s a bit of a litmus test, as he has the most points of any eligible (inactive for 3 years) player not in the Hall of Fame (as well as the most assists). If he belongs, others do to.

But if he doesn’t, maybe he’s a good cut-off point for counting stats.

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Max Bentley

Max Bentley’s Career

  • NHL: 1940-43; 1945-54; 12 seasons, 11 quality
  • Totals:
    • 245G (7th All Time at his retirement),
    • 299A (5th) for
    • 544P (5th) in
    • 646 games (14th),
    • 56.6 PS
    • At his retirement, Bentley was 19th All Time in Offensive Point Shares
  • Per Game: At his retirement, Bentley was
    • 10th All time in GPG, and
    • 9th in APG and GPG
  • Era: Of the 10 players to play in at least 600 games between 1940 and 1954, Bentley is
    • 3rd in Goals, GPG and Points,
    • 2nd in Assists and APG,
    • 4th in PPG and OPS,
    • 6th in PS and
    • 5th in Games
  • 82-game average: 31G, 38A for 69P
  • 3-year peak (1942-47): 50-game average of 28G, 38A for 67P
  • Playoffs: 18G, 27A for 45P in 51 games
  • Adjusted:
    • Hockey Reference:
      • 298G, 436A for 734P
      • Adjusted 82-game average: 38G, 55A for 93P
      • Per Game: Not in the Top 25
      • VsX:
        • 417G
        • 622A
        • 876P
        • Per Game:
          • 23rd All Time in VsX Adjusted APG
          • 23rd All Time in VsX Adjusted PPG
  • Trades:
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Elwin Doc Romnes

Career

  • NHL: 1930-40; 10 seasons, 6 quality[1. By modern standards of PPG]
  • 68G, 136A (24th All Time at his retirement) for 204P in 360 games; 21.6 PS
  • At his retirement, Romnes was 6th All Time in APG and 25th in PPG[2. Minimum 300 games]
  • Era: Romnes is 14th in Assists, 5th in APG, 24th in Points and 17th in PPG[3. Of all the players to play at least 360 games between 1930 and 1940]
  • 82-game average: 16G, 31A for 47P
  • 3-year peak (1935-38): 48-game average of 10G, 24A for 35P
  • Playoffs: 7G, 18A for 25P in 43 games
  • Adjusted: 117G, 301A for 418P
  • Adjusted 82-game average: 27G, 69A for 95P
  • Traded thrice at the end of his career, including getting traded out of the NHL.

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Marty Barry

Marty Barry’s Career

  • NHL: 1927-28; 1929-40; 12 seasons, 10 quality[1. By modern PPG standards)]
  • Totals:
    • 195G (11th All Time at his retirement),
    • 192A (4th) for
    • 387P (6th) in
    • 509 games (22nd);
    • 57.6 PS (15th)
  • At his retirement, Barry was 10th All Time in GPG, 4th in APG and 8th in PPG[2. Minimum 300 games]
  • At his retirement, Barry was 8th All Time in Offensive Point Shares
  • Era: Barry is 3rd in Goals and OPS, 2nd in GPG, Points and PPG, 1st in Assists and APG, 5th in PS and 12th in Games[3. Of the 14 players to play in at least 500 games between 1927 and 1940]
  • 82-game average: 31G, 31A for 62P
  • 3-year peak (1934-37): 44 game average of 18G, 20A for 38P
  • Playoffs: 15G, 18A for 33P in 43 games
  • Adjusted:
    • Hockey-Reference:
      • 339G, 445A for 784P
      • Adjusted 82-game average: 55G, 72A for 126P
      • Per Game:
    • VsX:
  • Traded once, left unprotected once.
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Joe Primeau

Career

  • NHL: 1927-1936; 9 seasons, 6 quality[1. By modern PPG standards]
  • 66G, 177A (4th All Time at his retirement) for 243P (18th) in 310 games; 29.3 PS
  • At his retirement, Primeau was 1st All Time in APG and 6th in PPG[2. Minimum 300 games played]
  • Era: For players to play at least 300 games between 1927 and 1936, Primeau is 2nd in Assists, 11th in Points and 21st in Offensive Point Shares despite being 49th in Games Played;[3. Or 2nd last among qualifying players] 1st in APG and 5th in PPG
  • 82-game average: 17G, 47A for 64P
  • 3-year peak (1930-33): 44-game average of 11G, 31A for 42P
  • Playoffs: 5G, 18A for 23P in 38 games
  • Held the career record for most playoff assists between 1936 and 1937
  • Adjusted: 114G, 498A for 612P
  • Adjusted 82-game average: 30G, 132A for 162P
  • Primeau is 14th All Time in Adjusted PPG if the qualifier is 82 games[4. If the qualifier is raised to 300 games, Primeau is 5th All Time]
  • Never traded.

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Frank Boucher

Career

  • NHL: 1921-22, 1926-1938, 15 game comeback in 1943-44; 14 seasons, 10 quality[1. by modern standards of Points Per game]
  • 160G (17th All Time at his retirement[2. Before his comeback – his comeback made him 20th All Time]), 263A (1st[3. Before his comeback, 2nd after it]) for 423P (4th[4. Before his comeback, he was 8th All Time after the comeback]) in 533 games (11th All Time[5. Before his comeback, 17th All Time after]); 63.6 PS (11th[6. Before his comeback])
  • Boucher was the career leader in assists from 1931 until the 1943-44 season
  • At his second retirement, Boucher was 6th All Time in APG and 16th in PPG[7. Minimum 300 games]
  • At his initial retirement, Boucher was 5th All Time in Offensive Point Shares
  • Era: Between the years of 1926[8. When he Boucher entered the NHL] and 1938,[9. When Boucher retired for the first time] Boucher was 14th All Time in Goals, 1st in Assists, 2nd in Points, 19th in GPG, 2nd in APG, 7th in PPG, 7th in Point Shares and 5th in Offensive Points Shares while being 9th in Games Played[10. Minimum 300 games, 75 qualifying players. If the qualifier is raised to 500 games – 10 players – he was 6th All Time in Goals, 1st in Assists, 2nd in Points, 5th in GPG, 1st in APG and 2nd in PPG]
  • 82-game average: 24G, 39A for 62P
  • 3-year peak (1929-32): 44-game average of 17G, 29A for 45P
  • Playoffs: 16G, 20A for 36P in 55 games
  • Tied the record for career playoff goals in 1937[11. However he lost the record the next season]
  • Held the record for career playoff assists from 1932 until 1936 and again from 1937 until 1942
  • Held the record for career playoff points from 1932 until 1942
  • Adjusted: 284G, 871A (20th All Time) for 1155P
  • Adjusted 82-game average: 44G, 134A for 178P
  • Boucher is 12th All Time in Adjusted PPG if the qualifier is set at 82 games[12. If the qualifier is raised to 300 Boucher is 4th, if it’s raised to 500, he’s 2nd All Time.]
  • Traded out of the NHL at the beginning of his career, traded back into the NHL four years later.

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