Is Bobby Orr the Greatest Hockey Player of All Time?

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There is a never-ending debate among hockey fans as to which player of Gretzky, Lemieux and Orr was the greatest.  There are certain areas where each stands supreme.

Our vote is for Orr because we think he played the more difficult and more important position and because he revolutionized the position as well. (Also, the skating.) But at least one of us thinks there’s room for debate.

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Does Georges Buck Boucher Belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

Georges Boucher aka Buck Boucher was among the very best defencemen of the NHL’s first decade and a half. Where does he rank all time?

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Sprague Cleghorn

Sprague Cleghorn has one of the all time great hockey names. But was he good enough to be in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

In this episode, we talk about Sprague and where he ranks among the old timer D of his era. Listen here:

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Does Harry Cameron Belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

Harry Cameron was a dynamic offensive player from the blue line well before that was a common feature of NHL D.

Was he one of the greatest D of his era or of all time or is it more likely that the position had yet to be defined properly?

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Keith Tkachuk, Eric Lindros, Harry Cameron
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Charles Babe Siebert

Career

  • NHL: 1925-39; 14 seasons, 4 quality as a forward,[1. By modern PPG standards] all 6 seasons quality as defence[2. By Defensive Point Shares]
  • 140G, 156A (14th All Time at his retirement) for 296P (18th) in 592 games (6th); 47 PS (23rd)
  • At his retirement, Siebert was 14th All Time in GPG, 10th in APG and 12th in PPG[3. Minimum 500 games, 21 qualifying skaters]
  • Era: Siebert is 6th in Goals, GPG, Points and OPS, 5th in Assists, APG and PPG, 1st in DPS, 4th in PS and Games[4. Of the 7 skaters to play in at least 550 games between 1925 and 1939]
  • 82-game average: 20G, 21A for 41P
  • 3-year peak (1929-32, playing LW): 44-game average: 17G, 17A for 34P
  • Playoffs: 7G, 5A for 12P in 49 games
  • Adjusted: 248G, 503A for 753P
  • Adjusted 82-game average: 34G, 70A for 104P
  • If the qualifier is set to 500 games, Siebert is 23rd All Time in Adjusted PPG
  • Traded thrice.

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Eddie Shore

Career

  • NHL: 1926-40; 14 seasons, 11 quality[1. By Defensive Point Shares]
  • Totals:
    • 105G,
    • 179A (7th All Time at his retirement) for
    • 284P (21st) in
    • 550 Games (13th),
    • 51.4 PS (4th)
  • At his retirement, Shore was 21st in GPG, 4th in APG and 12th in PPG[2. Minimum 500 games – 25 qualifying players]
  • At his retirement, Shore was 10th All Time in Offensive Point Shares and 3rd in Defensive Point Shares
  • Era: Shore is 8th in Goals, GPG and Points, 3rd in Assists, 1st in APG and DPS,[3. Ahead by over 17 DPS] 6th in PPG, 5th in OPS, 2nd in PS and 10th in Games[4. Of the 10 skaters to play in at least 550 games between 1926 and 1940]
  • 82-game average: 16G, 27A for 43P
  • 3-year peak (1928-31): 44-game average of 14G, 15A for 28P
  • Playoffs: 7G, 12A for 19P in 55 games
  • Adjusted:
    • Hockey-Reference:
      • 196G, 525A for 721P
      • Adjusted 82-game average: 29G, 78A for 107P
      • Per game: Shore is 18th All Time in Adjusted PPG if the requirement is set at 500 games
    • VsX:
  • Traded once in the NHL at the end of his career.
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Francis King Clancy

King Clancy’s Career

  • NHL: 1921-37; 16 seasons, 15 quality
  • Totals:
    • 136G (23rd All Time at his retirement),
    • 147A (7th) for
    • 283P (13th) in
    • 592 games (2nd – Clancy was the career leader in Games Played from the 1934-35 season to the next season);
    • 104. 3 PS (1st)
  • Clancy was 10th All Time in GPG, 8th in APG and 10th in PPG at his retirement (if the qualifier is set to 500 games, 15 qualifying players, as Clancy doesn’t qualify for the leaderboards)
  • At his retirement, Clancy was 1st All Time in Defensive Point Shares
  • Era: Of the 14 skaters to play in at least 500 games between 1921 and 1937, Clancy is
    • 7th in Goals,
    • 9th in GPG and PPG,
    • 6th in Assists and OPS,
    • 8th in APG and Points,
    • 1st in DPS and PS,
    • 2nd in Games
  • 82-game average: 19G, 21A for 40P
  • 3-year peak (1927-30): 44-game average of 13G, 11A for 24P
  • Playoffs: 8G, 8A for 16P in 55 games
  • Adjusted: 247G, 550A for 797P
  • Adjusted 82-game average: 34G, 76A for 110P
  • Trades:
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