Does Edward Reg Noble Belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

Reg Noble’s biggest claim to fame is that he set the NHL career record in games played and, when he retired he was way ahead of the next player.

Does he belong in the Hall of Fame? We talk about him here:

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Does Georges Buck Boucher Belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

Georges Boucher aka Buck Boucher was among the very best defencemen of the NHL’s first decade and a half. Where does he rank all time?

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Sprague Cleghorn

Sprague Cleghorn has one of the all time great hockey names. But was he good enough to be in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

In this episode, we talk about Sprague and where he ranks among the old timer D of his era. Listen here:

Sprague Cleghorn’s stats:

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Eddie Gerard

Eddie Gerard won a bunch of Stanley Cups. And by one metric he might have been the best defenceman in the early NHL. Was he? Does he deserve to the be in the Hockey Hall of Fame? We discuss his case on our latest episode. Listen here:

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Does Harry Cameron Belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

Harry Cameron was a dynamic offensive player from the blue line well before that was a common feature of NHL D. Was he one of the greatest D of his era or of all time or is it more likely that the position had yet to be defined properly? Listen to us talk about Harry Cameron:

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Ebbie Goodfellow

Career

  • NHL: 1929-43; 14 seasons, 3 quality as a forward, 7? of 11 quality as a D[1. By Defensive Point Shares]
  • 134G, 190A (12th All Time at his retirement) for 324P (19th) in 557 games (14th); 54.9 PS (18th); 54.9 PS
  • At his retirement, Goodfellow was 19th All Time in GPG, 7th in APG and 13th in PPG[2. Minimum 500 games – 31 qualifying players]
  • Era: Goodfellow is 5th in Goals, Assists, Points and Games, 4th in GPG, PPG and OPS, 3rd in APG and PS[3. Of the 5 players to play in at least 550 games between 1929 and 1943]
  • 82-game average: 20G, 28A for 48P
  • 3-year peak (1938-41)[4. Playing defence]: 48-game average of 9G, 15A for 23P, 5.5 PS
  • Playoffs: 8G, 8A for 16P in 45 games
  • Adjusted: 230G, 453A for 683P
  • Adjusted 82-game average: 34G, 67A for 101P
  • Never traded.

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Charles Babe Siebert

Career

  • NHL: 1925-39; 14 seasons, 4 quality as a forward,[1. By modern PPG standards] all 6 seasons quality as defence[2. By Defensive Point Shares]
  • 140G, 156A (14th All Time at his retirement) for 296P (18th) in 592 games (6th); 47 PS (23rd)
  • At his retirement, Siebert was 14th All Time in GPG, 10th in APG and 12th in PPG[3. Minimum 500 games, 21 qualifying skaters]
  • Era: Siebert is 6th in Goals, GPG, Points and OPS, 5th in Assists, APG and PPG, 1st in DPS, 4th in PS and Games[4. Of the 7 skaters to play in at least 550 games between 1925 and 1939]
  • 82-game average: 20G, 21A for 41P
  • 3-year peak (1929-32, playing LW): 44-game average: 17G, 17A for 34P
  • Playoffs: 7G, 5A for 12P in 49 games
  • Adjusted: 248G, 503A for 753P
  • Adjusted 82-game average: 34G, 70A for 104P
  • If the qualifier is set to 500 games, Siebert is 23rd All Time in Adjusted PPG
  • Traded thrice.

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Eddie Shore

Career

  • NHL: 1926-40; 14 seasons, 11 quality[1. By Defensive Point Shares]
  • 105G, 179A (7th All Time at his retirement) for 284P (21st) in 550 Games (13th), 51.4 PS (4th)
  • At his retirement, Shore was 21st in GPG, 4th in APG and 12th in PPG[2. Minimum 500 games – 25 qualifying players]
  • At his retirement, Shore was 10th All Time in Offensive Point Shares and 3rd in Defensive Point Shares
  • Era: Shore is 8th in Goals, GPG and Points, 3rd in Assists, 1st in APG and DPS,[3. Ahead by over 17 DPS] 6th in PPG, 5th in OPS, 2nd in PS and 10th in Games[4. Of the 10 skaters to play in at least 550 games between 1926 and 1940]
  • 82-game average: 16G, 27A for 43P
  • 3-year peak (1928-31): 44-game average of 14G, 15A for 28P
  • Playoffs: 7G, 12A for 19P in 55 games
  • Adjusted: 196G, 525A for 721P
  • Adjusted 82-game average: 29G, 78A for 107P
  • Shore is 18th All Time in Adjusted PPG if the requirement is set at 500 games
  • Traded once in the NHL at the end of his career.

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Bobby Orr

Career

  • NHL: 1966-79; 12 seasons, 9 quality[1. By Defensive Point Shares]
  • 270G (1st All Time among D at his retirement[2. Orr was ahead by over 100 goals]), 645A (1st D[3. Orr was ahead by nearly 200 assists]) for 915P (1st D[4. Orr was ahead by 299 points]), +597 (2nd All Time[5. All skaters]) in 657 games; 152 PS (3rd All Time[6. 1st All Time among D] at his retirement)
  • At his retirement, Orr was 25th All Time in GPG, 1st in APG[7. Orr is now 3rd All time in APG] and PPG[7. Minimum 500 games][8. Orr is now 4th All Time in PPG]
  • Orr was 11th All Time in OPS[9. 1st Defenceman] and 13th All Time in PS[10. 12th Defenceman] at his retirement
  • Era: Orr is 20th in Goals, 10th in GPG, 4th in Assists and Points, 1st in APG,[10. Orr is ahead by .21 APG] PPG and PS, 2nd in OPS, 3rd in DPS despite being 79th in Games[11. Of the 82 skaters to play in at least 650 games between 1966 and 1979]
  • 82-game average: 34G, 80A for 114P, +75
  • 3-year peak (1969-72): 82-game average of 38G, 96A for 134P
  • Playoffs: 26G, 66A for 92P in 74 games
  • Adjusted: 255G, 623A for 878P
  • Adjusted 82-game average: 32G, 78A for 110P
  • Orr is 16th All Time in Adjusted PPG if the qualifier is set at 500 games
  • Never traded.

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Francis King Clancy

Career

  • NHL: 1921-37; 16 seasons, 15 quality[1. By Defensive Point Shares]
  • 136G (23rd All Time at his retirement), 147A (7th) for 283P (13th) in 592 games (2nd[2. Clancy was the career leader in Games Played from the 1934-35 season to the next season]); 104. 3 PS (1st)
  • Clancy was 10th All Time in GPG, 8th in APG and 10th in PPG at his retirement[3. If the qualifier is set to 500 games, 15 qualifying players]
  • At his retirement, Clancy was 1st All Time in Defensive Point Shares
  • Era: Clancy is 7th in Goals, 9th in GPG and PPG, 6th in Assists and OPS, 8th in APG and Points, 1st in DPS and PS, 2nd in Games[4. Of the 14 skaters to play in at least 500 games between 1921 and 1937, as only 4 players played in 550 games]
  • 82-game average: 19G, 21A for 40P
  • 3-year peak (1927-30): 44-game average of 13G, 11A for 24P
  • Playoffs: 8G, 8A for 16P in 55 games
  • Adjusted: 247G, 550A for 797P
  • Adjusted 82-game average: 34G, 76A for 110P
  • Traded once.

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