Does Bernie Nicholls Belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

Bernie Nicholls had one of the greatest individual seasons in the NHL by someone not named Gretzky. But looking at his career playing without Gretzky (or Dionne), his career is a lot less impressive. Does this point per game player belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

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Does Brendan Shanahan Belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

Does Brendan Shanahan belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

It’s a silly question about one of the greatest power forwards ever. We still ask it and talk about his case.

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Does Martin St Louis Belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

Martin St. Louis will be formally inducted into the Hall of Fame in October. Yet there are people who strongly believe he either doesn’t belong or that he should have “wait.” (Why someone should have to wait, we don’t know.)

In our latest episode, we talk about how open and shut St. Louis’ Hall of Fame inclusion case truly is even though one of us doesn’t personally like the guy for no particular reason.

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Does Sergei Zubov Belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

by Eric Wallace from Plano, Texas, USA [CC BY 2.0 (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0)]

Sergei Zubov was one of the best defencemen in the NHL for nearly two decades yet, when he recorded this episode, he was not yet in the Hockey Hall of Fame.

Why did it take so long? Was it because he’s Russian? Was it because he played most of his career in Dallas and wasn’t watched enough?

In this episode, we marveled at how Zubov was not in the Hockey Hall of Fame.

Of course, since then the Hall of Fame corrected their mistake. Still, it’s a fun episode.

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Does Eric Lindros Belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

How great was Eric Lindros really?

Was he all hype or did he live up to some of it? Is the only thing keeping him from the GOAT conversation his concussion history?

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Does Jaromir Jagr Belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

In this episode of The Back Check, we debate whether or not Jaromir Jagr is one of the greatest Right Wings in the history of the NHL.

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Lorne Carr

Career

  • NHL: 1933-46; 13 seasons, 9 quality[1. By Modern standards of PPG]
  • 204G (12th All Time at his retirement), 222A (10th) for 426P (9th) in 580 games (16th); 39.2 PS
  • Era: Carr is 3rd in Goals, GPG, OPS and Games, 2nd in Assists, APG, Points and PPG, and 7th in PS[2. Of the 7 players to play in at least 550 games between 1933 and 1946]
  • 82-game average: 29G, 31A for 60P
  • 3-year peak:[3. 1942-45] 48-game average of 27G, 31A for 59P
  • Playoffs: 10G, 9A for 19P in 53 games
  • Adjusted: 273G, 345A for 618P
  • Adjusted 82-game average: 39G, 49A for 87P
  • Traded twice in his prime, and twice at the beginning of his career.[4. Basically he was waived and called back up.]

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Hib Milks

Career

  • NHL: 1925-33; 8 seasons, 4 quality[1. By modern standards of PPG]
  • 87G, 41A for 128P in 317 games (23rd); 24.3 PS
  • Era: Milks is 17th in Goals, 15th in GPG, 20th in Points, 21st in PPG, 19th in OPS and in Games, and 24th in PS[2. Of the 33 players who played in at least 300 games between 1925 and 1933]
  • 82-game average: 22G, 11A for 33P
  • 3-year peak (1925-28): 44-game average of 17G, 5A for 22P
  • Playoffs: 0P in 11 games
  • Adjusted: 166G, 191A for 357P
  • Adjusted 82-game average: 43G, 49A for 92P
  • Never traded.

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Max Bentley

Max Bentley’s Career

  • NHL: 1940-43; 1945-54; 12 seasons, 11 quality
  • Totals:
    • 245G (7th All Time at his retirement),
    • 299A (5th) for
    • 544P (5th) in
    • 646 games (14th),
    • 56.6 PS
    • At his retirement, Bentley was 19th All Time in Offensive Point Shares
  • Per Game: At his retirement, Bentley was
    • 10th All time in GPG, and
    • 9th in APG and GPG
  • Era: Of the 10 players to play in at least 600 games between 1940 and 1954, Bentley is
    • 3rd in Goals, GPG and Points,
    • 2nd in Assists and APG,
    • 4th in PPG and OPS,
    • 6th in PS and
    • 5th in Games
  • 82-game average: 31G, 38A for 69P
  • 3-year peak (1942-47): 50-game average of 28G, 38A for 67P
  • Playoffs: 18G, 27A for 45P in 51 games
  • Adjusted:
    • Hockey Reference:
      • 298G, 436A for 734P
      • Adjusted 82-game average: 38G, 55A for 93P
      • Per Game: Not in the Top 25
      • VsX:
        • 417G
        • 622A
        • 876P
        • Per Game:
          • 23rd All Time in VsX Adjusted APG
          • 23rd All Time in VsX Adjusted PPG
  • Trades:
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Billy Taylor

Billy Taylor’s Career

  • NHL: 1939-43, 1945-8; 7 seasons, 6 quality (by modern standards of PPG)
  • Totals:
    • 87G,
    • 180A for
    • 267P in
    • 323 games;
    • 23.0 PS
  • Per Game: Taylor didn’t score enough to make these leader-boards. However, at his banning, among players who played at least 300 games, Taylor was
    • 6th All Time in APG and
    • 12th in PPG
  • Era: Of the 30 players to play in at least 300 games between 1939 and 1948, Taylor is
    • 16th in Goals,
    • 15th in GPG,
    • 8th in Assists,
    • 6th in APG,
    • 11th in Points,
    • 10th in PPG,
    • 14th in OPS,
    • 20th in PS and Games Played
  • 82-game average: 22G, 46A for 68P
  • 3-year peak (1942-47): 50-game average of 19G, 33A for 52P
  • Playoffs: 6G, 18A for 24P in 33 games
  • Adjusted:
    • Hockey-Reference:
      • 106G,
      • 263A for
      • 369P
      • Adjusted 82-game average: 27G, 67A for 94P
    • VsX: Doesn’t qualify for the adjustement
  • Trades:
    • Traded at 27 to Detroit for Harry Watson (23) – our 15th Greatest Maple Leafs Trade of All Time
    • Traded at 28 to Boston for Bep Guiidolin (21)
    • Traded at 28 to the Rangers with Future Considerations (Pentti Lund and Ray Manson) for Grant Warwick (26)
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