GOAT – Page 4 – Who really belongs in the Hall of Fame?

Does Peter Forsberg Belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

Peter Forsberg combined elite passing with elite defensive ability and elite effort. His offensive rate statistics put him among the very best centres in the history of the NHL. Add to that his defense, and it feels as though he has a case to be considered one of the best centres to ever play the game.

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Is Nicklas Lidstrom the 2nd Best Defenseman of All Time?

If you judge strictly on the basis of Norris Trophy wins, Nicklas Lidstrom is the second best NHL defenseman of all time.

Obviously Norris wins are not the only criteria we should use when evaluating NHL D, so in this episode we look at his entire career and try to figure out where he ranks all time.

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Does Newsy Lalonde Belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

The question with Newsy isn’t whether or not he belongs in the Hockey Hall of Fame but rather, is Newsy Lalonde one of the Greatest of All Time?

Newsy’s dominance of the early NHL is unrivaled but where does he rank all time?

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Does Cyclone Taylor Belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

Cyclone Taylor didn’t play a game in the NHL, but he was arguably one of the first pro hockey stars, along with Newsy Lalonde and Joe Malone. How does he compare with them?

Does he belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame even though he played the majority of his career in the PCHA?

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Career

NHL: 1942-60; 18 seasons, 16 quality
Totals:
- 544G (1st All Time at his retirement[1. The career record holder until 1963]),
- 421A (3rd) for
- 965P (2nd[2. Richard was the NHL’s career leader in points from 1953-54 until 1959-60]) in 9
- 78 games (2nd);
- 125.3 PS (2nd)
Richard is 13th All Time in GPG[3. At his retirement he was 12th – minimum 500 games] and, at his retirement, he was 19th in PPG[4. Minimum 500 games and also he was 1st All Time briefly during the 1951-52 season]
At his retirement, Richard was 2nd All Time in Offensive Point Shares[5. Richard was the career leader in Offensive Point Shares from the 1956-57 season to the next season]
Era: Richard is 1st in Goals, GPG, Points, PPG, OPS, PS and Games, 3rd in Assists and APG[6. Of the 5 players to play in at least 850 games between 1942 and 1960, as only two players played 950 games and only three played in 900 games during that span]
82-game average: 46G, 35A for 81P
3-year peak (1943-46): 50-game average of 37G, 23A for 60P
Playoffs:
- 82G (8th All Time),[7. Richard held the career record in playoff goals from 1947 until 1986]
- 44A for
- 126P[8. Richard held the career record in playoff points from 1951 until 1964] in
- 133 games
- Richard is currently 4th All Time in playoff GPG[9. Richard held the career playoff GPG record from 1946 until 1956 and again from 1957 until 1981][10. Richard held the career playoff PPG record from 1949 until 1952]
Adjusted:
- Hockey Reference:
  - 653G (9th All Time), 576A for 1229P (25th)
  - Adjusted 82-game average: 55G, 48A for 103P
  - If the qualifier is set at 500 games, Richard is 24th All Time in Adjusted PPG[11. If the qualifier is set to 750 games, Richard is 4th All Time]
- VsX:
Never traded.

Alexander Ovechkin

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Eddie Shore

Career

NHL: 1926-40; 14 seasons, 11 quality[1. By Defensive Point Shares]
Totals:
- 105G,
- 179A (7th All Time at his retirement) for
- 284P (21st) in
- 550 Games (13th),
- 51.4 PS (4th)
At his retirement, Shore was 21st in GPG, 4th in APG and 12th in PPG[2. Minimum 500 games – 25 qualifying players]
At his retirement, Shore was 10th All Time in Offensive Point Shares and 3rd in Defensive Point Shares
Era: Shore is 8th in Goals, GPG and Points, 3rd in Assists, 1st in APG and DPS,[3. Ahead by over 17 DPS] 6th in PPG, 5th in OPS, 2nd in PS and 10th in Games[4. Of the 10 skaters to play in at least 550 games between 1926 and 1940]
82-game average: 16G, 27A for 43P
3-year peak (1928-31): 44-game average of 14G, 15A for 28P
Playoffs: 7G, 12A for 19P in 55 games
Adjusted:
- Hockey-Reference:
  - 196G, 525A for 721P
  - Adjusted 82-game average: 29G, 78A for 107P
  - Per game: Shore is 18th All Time in Adjusted PPG if the requirement is set at 500 games
- VsX:
Traded once in the NHL at the end of his career.

Francis King Clancy

King Clancy’s Career

NHL: 1921-37; 16 seasons, 15 quality
Totals:
- 136G (23rd All Time at his retirement),
- 147A (7th) for
- 283P (13th) in
- 592 games (2nd – Clancy was the career leader in Games Played from the 1934-35 season to the next season);
- 104. 3 PS (1st)
Clancy was 10th All Time in GPG, 8th in APG and 10th in PPG at his retirement (if the qualifier is set to 500 games, 15 qualifying players, as Clancy doesn’t qualify for the leaderboards)
At his retirement, Clancy was 1st All Time in Defensive Point Shares
Era: Of the 14 skaters to play in at least 500 games between 1921 and 1937, Clancy is
- 7th in Goals,
- 9th in GPG and PPG,
- 6th in Assists and OPS,
- 8th in APG and Points,
- 1st in DPS and PS,
- 2nd in Games
82-game average: 19G, 21A for 40P
3-year peak (1927-30): 44-game average of 13G, 11A for 24P
Playoffs: 8G, 8A for 16P in 55 games
Adjusted: 247G, 550A for 797P
Adjusted 82-game average: 34G, 76A for 110P
Trades:
- Traded at 27 to the Leafs for Eric Pettinger (26), Art Smith (23) and $35,000 – our 11th Best Maple Leafs Trade of All Time

Category: GOAT

Does Peter Forsberg Belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

Is Nicklas Lidstrom the 2nd Best Defenseman of All Time?

Does Newsy Lalonde Belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

Does Cyclone Taylor Belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

Does Teemu Selanne Belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

Does Jaromir Jagr Belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

Maurice Richard

Career

Alexander Ovechkin

Eddie Shore

Career

Francis King Clancy

King Clancy’s Career