Does Alexander Mogilny Belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

Alex Mogilny had one of the best goal-scoring seasons in the history of the NHL and one other pretty dominant season. But the knock on him was his consistency, as he had very mediocre years in between his good years.

Mogilny is also notable for being one of the last USSR players to defect to the States, and having never played internationally for Russia once he did so.

In this episode, we discuss his convoluted case for induction:

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Does Daniel Alfredsson Belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

Every year, Daniel Alfredsson’s name comes up on a list of eligible players for the Hockey Hall of Fame, due to his career games and points. There is great disagreement as to whether or not he belongs.

In our latest episode, we discuss his case:

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Does Gary Suter Belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

Gary Suter is one of the top offensive defencemen in the history of the NHL.

However, many of the defenders above Suter on the points list played at exactly the same time so, in context, his impressive offensive numbers don’t look so impressive.

We talk about Suter’s case here:

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Defensive Defensemen

Since the position of defenseman was created, there have been defenders who contributed to the team’s offense and there have been players who didn’t much. But this difference was exacerbated by the expansion of the NHL in 1967 and the phenomenon of Bobby Orr, who destroyed scoring records for defenders, and showed that teams could expect scoring from the back-end in ways they never imagined.

This change essentially created a dichotomy between “offensive” defensemen, who scored a lot, albeit not quite as much as Bobby Orr, and “defensive” defensemen, who didn’t score much at all. For our purposes, we’ve arbitrarily assumed that a “defensive defenseman” is a defender which manged .35 adjusted PPG or less throughout their NHL career.

The Hall of Fame’s attitude towards defensively inclined defenders also changed since expansion. The Hall of Fame has inducted six NHL defensemen from that era who scored less than .35 adjusted PPG (of a total of 16 legitimate candidates they could have inducted). But the Hall of Fame has inducted exactly one player who fits the bill, Rod Langway, to play the majority of his career since expansion.

This leads to three possible conclusions:

  • Rod Langway was the best defensive defenseman since expansion, significantly better than any other, and he deserves to be in the Hall of Fame while no other player with a similar skill set deserves the honour. OR
  • There are other players of Rod Langway’s ability who have been forgotten or overlooked because they didn’t get the awards votes (Norris and Hart) that Langway got, and they deserve to be in. OR
  • Rod Langway’s awards votes are a historical curiosity that won’t happen again and he didn’t necessarily deserve them, nor do other players who fail to contribute offensively, and no defensive defensemen should be inducted into the Hall of Fame going forward.

How do we sort out this problem?

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Does Ziggy Palffy Belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

A lot of people probably think Ziggy Palffy doesn’t have a case in hell for Hall of Fame. Well, we beg top differ.

In our latest episode, hear us make a case for Palffy’s induction, based upon the standards set by previous inductees.

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Does Sergei Gonchar Belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

We doubt Sergei Gonchar is a name many would have considered for induction to the Hockey Hall of Fame.

But he had a rather great career despite his lack of accolades.

In our latest episode, we debate whether or not Sergei Gonchar deserves to be in the Hockey Hall of Fame.

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Do the Sedin Twins Belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

We decided to treat the Sedin twins as one player, because they are a unique phenomenon in the history of hockey.

Did they do enough in their careers to merit induction as great players, rather than just as a novelty?

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Does Pierre Turgeon Belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

Pierre Turgeon is our first truly eligible player that we’re considering. And he’s a bit of a litmus test, as he has the most points of any eligible (inactive for 3 years) player not in the Hall of Fame (as well as the most assists). If he belongs, others do to.

But if he doesn’t, maybe he’s a good cut-off point for counting stats.

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Does Jarome Iginla Belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

Though he’s technically still active, we decided there was no way he was going to improve his case if he ever did manage to make an NHL comeback, so we decided to talk about Jarome Iginla’s Hall of Fame case.

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Lorne Carr

Career

  • NHL: 1933-46; 13 seasons, 9 quality[1. By Modern standards of PPG]
  • 204G (12th All Time at his retirement), 222A (10th) for 426P (9th) in 580 games (16th); 39.2 PS
  • Era: Carr is 3rd in Goals, GPG, OPS and Games, 2nd in Assists, APG, Points and PPG, and 7th in PS[2. Of the 7 players to play in at least 550 games between 1933 and 1946]
  • 82-game average: 29G, 31A for 60P
  • 3-year peak:[3. 1942-45] 48-game average of 27G, 31A for 59P
  • Playoffs: 10G, 9A for 19P in 53 games
  • Adjusted: 273G, 345A for 618P
  • Adjusted 82-game average: 39G, 49A for 87P
  • Traded twice in his prime, and twice at the beginning of his career.[4. Basically he was waived and called back up.]

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