Does Billy Burch Belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

Billy Burch won the Hart in a year when he was the 3rd best offensive player on his own team and the 6th best overall. That’s basically his only case for Hall of Fame inclusion.

But what if he did something else?

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Does Bert Corbeau Belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

Bert Corbeau was, by some metrics, one of the best D of his era. In this episode, we discuss whether or not he should be inducted.

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Does Cully Wilson Belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

Cully Wilson was a notorious goon of a hockey player. He is also one of the rare early pros to have success in all four major pro leagues. Does he belong in the Hall of Fame?

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Does Bernie Morris Belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

Bernie Morris had one of the greatest Stanley Cup Finals performances in hockey history, scoring 14 of his team’s 23 goals (in 4 games!) in 1917. But he is not in the Hall of Fame.

In this episode, we discuss his career and his case. Listen here:

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Wilfred Shorty Green

Shorty Green is in the Hall of Fame for a very specific thing, for being one of the leaders of the first ever NHL players strike.

But he’s in the Hall as a player, so how does his career stack up?

In this episode we discuss his actual hockey career. (And, to be clear, we strongly believe he belongs in the Hall of Fame for what he did off the ice.)

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Does Corb Denneny Belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

Unlike his brother Cy, Charles “Corb” Corbett Denneny is not in the Hockey Hall of Fame, despite having a pretty decent career.

In this episode, we talk about Corb and how he compares to some of his contemporaries who are in the Hall already. Does he deserve to be inducted now?

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Does Herb Gardiner Belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

Herb Gardiner may have been one of the premier defencemen of his era, and was awarded the Hart Trophy as a result.

But how good was he really? Can we even know? How do we evaluate defencemen from the 1920s who didn’t score a lot? Can we trust Hart trophy wins from the past when we know they sometimes awarded them for controversial reasons?

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Hector Kilrea

Career

  • NHL: 1925-40; 15 seasons, 5 quality[1. By modern standards of PPG]
  • 167G (15th All Time at his retirement), 129A for 296P (18th) in 633 games (4th); 44.9 PS
  • At his retirement, Kilrea was 14th All Time in GPG, 20th in APG and 16th in PPG[2. Minimum 500 games, 25 qualifying players]
  • Era: Kilrea is 5th in Goals and GPG, 8th in Assists and OPS, APG and PPG, 6th in Points, 7th in PS and 3rd in Games[3. Of the 10 players to play in at least 550 games between 1925 and 1940, because only 3 players managed to play in 600 games over that span]
  • 82-game average: 21G, 16A for 39P
  • 3-year peak (1929-32): 44-game average of 23G, 12A for 35P
  • Playoffs: 8G, 7A for 15P in 48 games
  • Adjusted: 296G, 395A for 691P
  • Adjusted 82-game average: 38G, 51A for 90P
  • Traded twice in his prime.

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Harry Mummery

Career

  • NHL: 1917-23; 6 seasons, 4 quality[1.By Defensive Point Shares]
  • 33G (24th All Time at his retirement), 19A (23rd) for 52P (24th) in 106 games; 10.5 PS (19th)
  • At his retirement, Mummery was 23rd All Time in GPG, APG and PPG[2. Minimum 82 games, 24 qualifying players]
  • At his retirement, Mummery was 8th All Time in Defensive Point Shares and 25th All Time in Offensive Point Shares
  • 82-game average: 25G, 15A for 40P; 8.1 PS
  • 3-year peak (1919-22): 24-game average of 10G, 6A for 15P
  • NHL Playoffs: 1G, 1A for 2P in 2 games
  • Adjusted: 41G, 81A for 122P
  • Adjusted 82-game average: 32G, 63A for 94P
  • Dominance Quotient: Never led a team
  • Traded twice in his prime and traded out of the NHL at the end of his career.[3. Also, Mummery was the largest player (by weight) and he holds the record for most games as a Goaltender by a skater]

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Joe Matte

Career

  • NHL: 1919-22, 1925-26; 4 seasons[1. 1 quality by DPS]
  • 17G, 15A for 32P in 68 games
  • Matte didn’t play enough for an 82-game average
  • 3-year peak (1919-22): 24-game average of 7G, 6A for 13P; 1.1 PS
  • No NHL Playoffs
  • Adjusted: 20G, 67A for 87P
  • Adjusted 82-game average[2. This is a joke]: 24G, 81A for 105P
  • Traded twice in his prime within the NHL, then traded out of the NHL, waived once.

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