Does Billy Burch Belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

Billy Burch won the Hart in a year when he was the 3rd best offensive player on his own team and the 6th best overall. That’s basically his only case for Hall of Fame inclusion.

But what if he did something else?

Listen to us talk about Billy Burch’s Hall of Fame case here:

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Does Bert Corbeau Belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

Bert Corbeau was, by some metrics, one of the best D of his era. In this episode, we discuss whether or not he should be inducted.

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Does Cully Wilson Belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

Cully Wilson was a notorious goon of a hockey player. He is also one of the rare early pros to have success in all four major pro leagues. Does he belong in the Hall of Fame?

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Wilfred Shorty Green

Shorty Green is in the Hall of Fame for a very specific thing, for being one of the leaders of the first ever NHL players strike.

But he’s in the Hall as a player, so how does his career stack up?

In this episode we discuss his actual hockey career. (And, to be clear, we strongly believe he belongs in the Hall of Fame for what he did off the ice.)

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Does Corb Denneny Belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

Unlike his brother Cy, Charles “Corb” Corbett Denneny is not in the Hockey Hall of Fame, despite having a pretty decent career.

In this episode, we talk about Corb and how he compares to some of his contemporaries who are in the Hall already. Does he deserve to be inducted now?

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Harry Mummery

Career

  • NHL: 1917-23; 6 seasons, 4 quality[1.By Defensive Point Shares]
  • 33G (24th All Time at his retirement), 19A (23rd) for 52P (24th) in 106 games; 10.5 PS (19th)
  • At his retirement, Mummery was 23rd All Time in GPG, APG and PPG[2. Minimum 82 games, 24 qualifying players]
  • At his retirement, Mummery was 8th All Time in Defensive Point Shares and 25th All Time in Offensive Point Shares
  • 82-game average: 25G, 15A for 40P; 8.1 PS
  • 3-year peak (1919-22): 24-game average of 10G, 6A for 15P
  • NHL Playoffs: 1G, 1A for 2P in 2 games
  • Adjusted: 41G, 81A for 122P
  • Adjusted 82-game average: 32G, 63A for 94P
  • Dominance Quotient: Never led a team
  • Traded twice in his prime and traded out of the NHL at the end of his career.[3. Also, Mummery was the largest player (by weight) and he holds the record for most games as a Goaltender by a skater]

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Joe Matte

Career

  • NHL: 1919-22, 1925-26; 4 seasons[1. 1 quality by DPS]
  • 17G, 15A for 32P in 68 games
  • Matte didn’t play enough for an 82-game average
  • 3-year peak (1919-22): 24-game average of 7G, 6A for 13P; 1.1 PS
  • No NHL Playoffs
  • Adjusted: 20G, 67A for 87P
  • Adjusted 82-game average[2. This is a joke]: 24G, 81A for 105P
  • Traded twice in his prime within the NHL, then traded out of the NHL, waived once.

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Mickey Roach

Career

  • NHL: 1919-27; 8 seasons, 4 quality[1. By modern PPG standards]
  • 77G (18th All Time when he was traded out of the NHL), 34A (19th) for 111P (20th) in 211 games (11th); 12 PS
  • 82-game average: 30G, 13A for 43P
  • 3-year peak (1920-32): 24-game average of 13G, 8A for 22P
  • No NHL Playoff appearances
  • Adjusted: 115G, 159A for 274P
  • Adjusted 82-game average: 45G, 62A for 106P
  • Traded once during his prime, traded out of the NHL.

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Christopher Red Green

Career

  • NHL: 1923-29; 6 seasons, 2 quality[1. by modern standards of PPG]
  • 59G, 26A for 85P in 195 games
  • Era: Green is 10th in Goals, 12th in GPG, 16th in Assists, 17th in APG and OPS, 1th in Points and Games, 13th in PPG, 24th in PS[2. Of the 36 players to play in at least 150 games between 1923 and 1929]
  • 82-game average: 25G, 11A for 36P
  • 3-year peak (1923-26): 30-game average of 15G, 7A for 22P
  • Playoffs: 0P in 1 game
  • Adjusted: 106G, 150A for 256P
  • Adjusted 82-game average: 45G, 63A for 108P
  • Traded once after his prime and waived twice.

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Thomas McCarthy

Career

  • NHL: 1919-21; 2 seasons, 1 quality[1. By modern standards of PPG]
  • 22G (25th All Time when he left the NHL), 7A for 29P in 35 games; 1.9 PS
  • McCarthy was 17th All Time in GPG and PPG when he left the league[2. With the qualifier set to an absurdly low 35 games]
  • When he left the league, McCarthy was 24th All Time in Offensive Point Shares
  • McCarthy didn’t play enough games to project an 82-game average or to have a 3-year peak
  • No NHL Playoffs
  • Adjusted: 25G, 29A for 54P
  • Adjusted 82-game average:[3. This is a joke] 60G, 68A for 127P
  • Never traded within the NHL.

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