Does Joseph Didier Pitre Belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

In this episode we discuss Didier Pitre, a star of the National Hockey Association (NHA) who played in the NHL only in last mid-late 30s. Does he belong?

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Does Joe Hall Belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

In this episode, we discuss whether or not Joe Hall belongs in the Hockey Hall of Fame, or is he just there because we contracted the Spanish Flu during the Stanley Cup Finals.

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Aubrey Dit Clapper

Dit Clapper’s Career

  • NHL: 1927-47; 20 seasons, 8 out of 10 quality as a forward (by modern standards of PPG) and at least 8 out of 10 quality as a D (by Defensive Point Shares)
  • Totals:
    • 228G (8th All Time at his retirement),
    • 246A (6th) for
    • 474P (6th) in
    • 833 games (1st) – Clapper held the record for games played until the 1956-57 season
    • 94.3 PS (5th)
  • At his retirement, Clapper was 18th All Time in GPG and PPG, and 20th in APG (minimum 500 games, since Clapper doesn’t meet the qualifiers for APG or PPG)
  • At his retirement, Clapper was 6th All Time in Offensive Point Shares and 11th All time in Defensive Point Shares
  • Era: Of the 7 players to play in at least 600 games between 1927 and 1947, Clapper is
    • 3rd in Goals, GPG, Points and DPS,
    • 2nd in Assists,
    • 4th in APG and PPG,
    • 1st in OPS, PS and Games
  • 82-game average: 22G, 25A for 47P; 9.2 PS
  • 3-year peak (1929-32): 44-game average of 26G, 16A for 43P (as a forward)
  • Playoffs: 13G, 17A for 30 points in 82 games
  • Adjusted: 382G, 508A for 890P
  • Adjusted 82-game average: 38G, 50A for 88P
  • Never Traded.
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Lawrence Baldy Northcott

Career

  • NHL: 1928-39; 11 seasons, 6 quality[1. By modern standards of PPG]
  • 133G, 112A for 245P in 446 points
  • At his retirement, Northcott was 22nd in GPG
  • For players to play during the decade he played in, Northcott is 15th in Goals, 23rd in Assists, 19th in Points and 22nd in Games Played[2. Minimum 400 games]
  • Era: Northcott is 15th Goals, 12th in GPG, 23rd in Assists, 21 in APG and PS, 19th in Points, 17th in PPG and OPS, and 22nd in Games[3. Of the 37 players to play in at least 400 games between 1928 and 1939]
  • 82-game average: 25G, 21A for 45P
  • 3-year peak (1931-34): 48-game average of 21G, 14A for 34P
  • Playoffs: 8G, 5A for 13P in 31 games
  • Adjusted: 229G, 256A for 485P
  • Adjusted 82-game average: 42G, 47P for 89P
  • Traded once at the end of his career.

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Milt Schmidt

Milt Schmidt’s Career

  • NHL: 1936-42, 1945-55; 16 seasons, 14 quality
  • Totals:
    • 229G (14th All Time at his retirement),
    • 346A (3rd) for
    • 575P (4th) in
    • 776 games (2nd),
    • 63.3 PS (22nd)
    • At his retirement, Schmidt was 13th All time in OPS
  • Per game: At his retirement, Schmidt was
    • 25th All Time in GPG
    • 7th in APG (out of 8 qualifying players)
    • 13th in PPG (out of 13 qualifying players)
  • Era: Of the 6 players to play it at least 700 games between 1936 and 1955, Schmidt is
    • 3rd in Goals, GPG, PPG and PS,
    • 1st in Assists, APG and Games,
    • 2nd in Points and OPS
  • 82-game average: 25G, 37A for 61P
  • 3-year peak (1939-42): 48-game average of 18G, 28A for 46P
  • Playoffs:
    • 24G,
    • 25A for
    • 49P in 86 games
  • Adjusted:
    • Hockey-Reference:
      • 305G, 540A for 845P
      • Adjusted 82-game average: 32G, 57A for 89P
      • Schmidt is not on any PG leader-boards
    • VsX:
      • 423G
      • 782A
      • 1,030P
      • Schmidt is 18th All Time in VsX Adjusted APG
  • Never traded.

Milt Schmidt’s Accomplishments

  • Hart (’51)
  • Top 5 in Hart voting a further four times (’40, ’47, ’50, ’52)
  • Back Check Best Player (’40)
  • Back Check MVP (’40)
  • Top Player:
    • Top 5 Player (by Point Shares) once (’40),
    • Top 10 twice (’47)
    • Best Offensive Player (by Offensive Point Shares) once (’40),
    • Top 5 thrice (’47, ’51)
  • Goals:
    • Leader-boards:
      • Top 5 in Goals once,
      • Top 10 three times
    • GPG leader-boards:
      • Top 5 in GPG once,
      • Top 10 four times
    • Single-season totals:
      • 25 goals once, 20
      • goals four times
  • Assists:
    • Leader-boards:
      • Led the league in Assists once,
      • Top 5 four times
    • APG leader-boards:
      • Led the league in APG once,
      • Top 5 four times
  • Points:
    • Leader-boards:
      • Led the league in Points once,
      • Top 5 thrice,
      • Top 10 five times
    • PPG leader-boards:
      • Top 5 in PPG thrice,
      • Top 10 five times
    • Single-season totals:
      • 60 points twice (1 of only 12 players to do so at his retirement)
      • 50 points four times (1 of only 13 players at his retirement)
  • All Star:
    • 1st Team All Star thrice,
    • 2nd Team once
    • 4 All Star Games
  • VsX:
    • Best 7 Seasons:
      • Goals: 123rd All Time
      • Assists: 43rd All Time
      • Points: 56th All Time
    • Best 10 Seasons:
      • Goals: 113th All Time
      • Assists: 51st All Time
      • Points: 68th All Time

Great Teams

  • NHL:
    • Best Player (by points) on one Runner Up (’46 Bruins) and two Final Fours (’47, ’48 Bruins),
    • Best Skater (led playoffs in points) on one Champion (’41 Bruins),
    • Top 6 Forward (by points) on one Champion (’39 Bruins), one Runner Up (’53 Bruins) and three Final Fours (’49, ’52, ’54 Bruins),
    • Top 9 Forward (by points) on one Final Four (’51 Bruins),
    • Role Player (by points) on two Final Fours (’38, ’40 Bruins)
  • Senior:
    • Best Player (by points) on one Allan Cup Champion (’42 RCAF Flyers)

Schmidt didn’t deserve his Hart the one year he won it, but might have deserved it another year. And he wasn’t as offensively dominant as long as some of the greats of his era. And, despite some strong playoffs, he also had many weak playoffs. But I can’t shake the feeling he belongs.

Does George Owen Belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

George Owen’s Career

  • NHL: 1928-33; 5 seasons, all quality (by Defensive Point Shares)
  • Totals:
    • 44G,
    • 33A for
    • 77P in
    • 183 games
    • At his retirement, Owen was 20th All Time in Defensive Point Shares
  • Per Game: Doesn’t qualify; however, if the qualifier is set to an absurdly low 164 games, Owen is
    • 14th All Time in GPG among D
  • Era: Of the 23 D who played in at least 164 games (2 modern seasons) between 1928 and 1933, Owen is
    • 6th in Goals and GPG
    • 12th in Assists
    • 9th in APG
    • 7th in Points
    • 6th in PPG
    • 6th in Offensive Point Shares
    • 8th in Defensive Point Shares
    • 3rd in Point Shares
    • 18th in Games Played
  • 82-game average: 20G, 15A for 34P; 32.6 PS
  • 3-year peak (1929-32): 44-game average of 12G, 10A for 22P; 7.9 PS
  • Playoffs:
    • 2G,
    • 5A for
    • 7P in
    • 21 Games
  • Adjusted:
    • Hockey-Reference:
      • 83G, 121A for 204P
      • Adjusted 82-game average: 37G, 54A for 91P
      • Per Game: Doesn’t qualify
    • VsX: Doesn’t qualify
  • Trades:
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Harry Mummery

Career

  • NHL: 1917-23; 6 seasons, 4 quality[1.By Defensive Point Shares]
  • 33G (24th All Time at his retirement), 19A (23rd) for 52P (24th) in 106 games; 10.5 PS (19th)
  • At his retirement, Mummery was 23rd All Time in GPG, APG and PPG[2. Minimum 82 games, 24 qualifying players]
  • At his retirement, Mummery was 8th All Time in Defensive Point Shares and 25th All Time in Offensive Point Shares
  • 82-game average: 25G, 15A for 40P; 8.1 PS
  • 3-year peak (1919-22): 24-game average of 10G, 6A for 15P
  • NHL Playoffs: 1G, 1A for 2P in 2 games
  • Adjusted: 41G, 81A for 122P
  • Adjusted 82-game average: 32G, 63A for 94P
  • Dominance Quotient: Never led a team
  • Traded twice in his prime and traded out of the NHL at the end of his career.[3. Also, Mummery was the largest player (by weight) and he holds the record for most games as a Goaltender by a skater]

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Ebbie Goodfellow

Career

  • NHL: 1929-43; 14 seasons, 3 quality as a forward, 7? of 11 quality as a D[1. By Defensive Point Shares]
  • 134G, 190A (12th All Time at his retirement) for 324P (19th) in 557 games (14th); 54.9 PS (18th); 54.9 PS
  • At his retirement, Goodfellow was 19th All Time in GPG, 7th in APG and 13th in PPG[2. Minimum 500 games – 31 qualifying players]
  • Era: Goodfellow is 5th in Goals, Assists, Points and Games, 4th in GPG, PPG and OPS, 3rd in APG and PS[3. Of the 5 players to play in at least 550 games between 1929 and 1943]
  • 82-game average: 20G, 28A for 48P
  • 3-year peak (1938-41)[4. Playing defence]: 48-game average of 9G, 15A for 23P, 5.5 PS
  • Playoffs: 8G, 8A for 16P in 45 games
  • Adjusted: 230G, 453A for 683P
  • Adjusted 82-game average: 34G, 67A for 101P
  • Never traded.

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Charles Babe Siebert

Career

  • NHL: 1925-39; 14 seasons, 4 quality as a forward,[1. By modern PPG standards] all 6 seasons quality as defence[2. By Defensive Point Shares]
  • 140G, 156A (14th All Time at his retirement) for 296P (18th) in 592 games (6th); 47 PS (23rd)
  • At his retirement, Siebert was 14th All Time in GPG, 10th in APG and 12th in PPG[3. Minimum 500 games, 21 qualifying skaters]
  • Era: Siebert is 6th in Goals, GPG, Points and OPS, 5th in Assists, APG and PPG, 1st in DPS, 4th in PS and Games[4. Of the 7 skaters to play in at least 550 games between 1925 and 1939]
  • 82-game average: 20G, 21A for 41P
  • 3-year peak (1929-32, playing LW): 44-game average: 17G, 17A for 34P
  • Playoffs: 7G, 5A for 12P in 49 games
  • Adjusted: 248G, 503A for 753P
  • Adjusted 82-game average: 34G, 70A for 104P
  • If the qualifier is set to 500 games, Siebert is 23rd All Time in Adjusted PPG
  • Traded thrice.

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Joe Matte

Career

  • NHL: 1919-22, 1925-26; 4 seasons[1. 1 quality by DPS]
  • 17G, 15A for 32P in 68 games
  • Matte didn’t play enough for an 82-game average
  • 3-year peak (1919-22): 24-game average of 7G, 6A for 13P; 1.1 PS
  • No NHL Playoffs
  • Adjusted: 20G, 67A for 87P
  • Adjusted 82-game average[2. This is a joke]: 24G, 81A for 105P
  • Traded twice in his prime within the NHL, then traded out of the NHL, waived once.

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