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Does Pierre Turgeon Belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

Pierre Turgeon is our first truly eligible player that we’re considering. And he’s a bit of a litmus test, as he has the most points of any eligible (inactive for 3 years) player not in the Hall of Fame (as well as the most assists). If he belongs, others do to.

But if he doesn’t, maybe he’s a good cut-off point for counting stats.

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Does Joseph Didier Pitre Belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

In this episode we discuss Didier Pitre, a star of the National Hockey Association (NHA) who played in the NHL only in last mid-late 30s. Does he belong?

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Does Joe Hall Belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

In this episode, we discuss whether or not Joe Hall belongs in the Hockey Hall of Fame, or is he just there because we contracted the Spanish Flu during the Stanley Cup Finals.

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Does Mark Recchi Belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

In this episode we consider whether or not Mark Recchi should have been inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame. You can listen here:

Harry Mummery

Career

NHL: 1917-23; 6 seasons, 4 quality[1.By Defensive Point Shares]
33G (24th All Time at his retirement), 19A (23rd) for 52P (24th) in 106 games; 10.5 PS (19th)
At his retirement, Mummery was 23rd All Time in GPG, APG and PPG[2. Minimum 82 games, 24 qualifying players]
At his retirement, Mummery was 8th All Time in Defensive Point Shares and 25th All Time in Offensive Point Shares
82-game average: 25G, 15A for 40P; 8.1 PS
3-year peak (1919-22): 24-game average of 10G, 6A for 15P
NHL Playoffs: 1G, 1A for 2P in 2 games
Adjusted: 41G, 81A for 122P
Adjusted 82-game average: 32G, 63A for 94P
Dominance Quotient: Never led a team
Traded twice in his prime and traded out of the NHL at the end of his career.[3. Also, Mummery was the largest player (by weight) and he holds the record for most games as a Goaltender by a skater]

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Johnny Gagnon

Career

NHL: 1930-40; 10 seasons, 7 quality[1. By modern standards of PPG]
120G, 141A (22nd All Time at his retirement) for 261P (23rd) in 454 games; 32.2 PS
At his retirement, Gagnon was 18th All Time in APG and 24th in PPG[2. Minimum 300 games]
Era: Gagnon is 5th in Goals, GPG, Points, PPG, OPS and Games, 3rd in Assists and APG, and 6th in PS[3. Of the 8 players to play in at least 450 games between 1930 and 1940]
82-game average: 21G, 25A for 47P
3-year peak (1936-39): 48-game average of 16G, 19A for 34P
Playoffs: 12G, 12A for 24P in 32 games
Adjusted: 209G, 323A for 532P
Adjusted 82-game average: 38G, 58A for 96P
Traded thrice in his prime and once after.

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Elmer Lach

Elmer Lach’s Career

NHL: 1940-54; 14 seasons, 12 quality
Totals:
- 215G (20th All Time at his retirement),
- 408A (1st – Lach held the career lead in assists from 1951-52 until 1957-58) for
- 623P (2nd – Lach held the career lead in points from 1951-52 until 1953-54) in
- 664 games (8th);
- 61.1 PS (24th)
Per Game: At his retirement, Lach was
- 23rd All Time in GPG,
- 2nd in APG (only 4 qualifying players…) and
- 5th in PPG
At his retirement, Lach was 15th All Time in Offensive Point Shares
Era: Of the 10 players to play in at least 600 games between 1940 and 1954, as only 3 players played in 650 games, Lach is
- 5th in Goals and GPG,
- 1st in Assists and APG,
- 2nd in Points, PPG and Games,
- 3rd in OPS,
- 4th in PS
82-game average: 26G, 50A for 77P
3-year peak (1942-45): 50-game average of 24G, 50A for 73P
Playoffs:
- 19G,
- 45A (Lach held the career record for playoff assists from 1952 until 1957)
- 64P in
- 76 games;
- Lach held the career record for playoff APG, among all qualifying players, from 1946 until 1952.
Adjusted:
- Hockey-Reference:
  - 248G, 568A 816P
  - Adjusted 82-game: 31G, 70A for 101P
  - Per Game: Lach is
    - 8th All Time in Adjusted APG and
    - 16th in Adjusted PPG
- VsX:
  - 351G, 804A, 930P [Stats calculated separately, relative to others, so they don’t add up]
  - Per Game: Lach is
    - 7th All Time in APG
    - 21st All Time in PPG
Never traded.

Is Maurice Richard the Greatest Goal Scorer of All Time?

Career

NHL: 1942-60; 18 seasons, 16 quality
Totals:
- 544G (1st All Time at his retirement[1. The career record holder until 1963]),
- 421A (3rd) for
- 965P (2nd[2. Richard was the NHL’s career leader in points from 1953-54 until 1959-60]) in 9
- 78 games (2nd);
- 125.3 PS (2nd)
Richard is 13th All Time in GPG[3. At his retirement he was 12th – minimum 500 games] and, at his retirement, he was 19th in PPG[4. Minimum 500 games and also he was 1st All Time briefly during the 1951-52 season]
At his retirement, Richard was 2nd All Time in Offensive Point Shares[5. Richard was the career leader in Offensive Point Shares from the 1956-57 season to the next season]
Era: Richard is 1st in Goals, GPG, Points, PPG, OPS, PS and Games, 3rd in Assists and APG[6. Of the 5 players to play in at least 850 games between 1942 and 1960, as only two players played 950 games and only three played in 900 games during that span]
82-game average: 46G, 35A for 81P
3-year peak (1943-46): 50-game average of 37G, 23A for 60P
Playoffs:
- 82G (8th All Time),[7. Richard held the career record in playoff goals from 1947 until 1986]
- 44A for
- 126P[8. Richard held the career record in playoff points from 1951 until 1964] in
- 133 games
- Richard is currently 4th All Time in playoff GPG[9. Richard held the career playoff GPG record from 1946 until 1956 and again from 1957 until 1981][10. Richard held the career playoff PPG record from 1949 until 1952]
Adjusted:
- Hockey Reference:
  - 653G (9th All Time), 576A for 1229P (25th)
  - Adjusted 82-game average: 55G, 48A for 103P
  - If the qualifier is set at 500 games, Richard is 24th All Time in Adjusted PPG[11. If the qualifier is set to 750 games, Richard is 4th All Time]
- VsX:
Never traded.

Charles Babe Siebert

Career

NHL: 1925-39; 14 seasons, 4 quality as a forward,[1. By modern PPG standards] all 6 seasons quality as defence[2. By Defensive Point Shares]
140G, 156A (14th All Time at his retirement) for 296P (18th) in 592 games (6th); 47 PS (23rd)
At his retirement, Siebert was 14th All Time in GPG, 10th in APG and 12th in PPG[3. Minimum 500 games, 21 qualifying skaters]
Era: Siebert is 6th in Goals, GPG, Points and OPS, 5th in Assists, APG and PPG, 1st in DPS, 4th in PS and Games[4. Of the 7 skaters to play in at least 550 games between 1925 and 1939]
82-game average: 20G, 21A for 41P
3-year peak (1929-32, playing LW): 44-game average: 17G, 17A for 34P
Playoffs: 7G, 5A for 12P in 49 games
Adjusted: 248G, 503A for 753P
Adjusted 82-game average: 34G, 70A for 104P
If the qualifier is set to 500 games, Siebert is 23rd All Time in Adjusted PPG
Traded thrice.

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Joe Matte

Career

NHL: 1919-22, 1925-26; 4 seasons[1. 1 quality by DPS]
17G, 15A for 32P in 68 games
Matte didn’t play enough for an 82-game average
3-year peak (1919-22): 24-game average of 7G, 6A for 13P; 1.1 PS
No NHL Playoffs
Adjusted: 20G, 67A for 87P
Adjusted 82-game average[2. This is a joke]: 24G, 81A for 105P
Traded twice in his prime within the NHL, then traded out of the NHL, waived once.

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